Advanced Citizenship

October 27th, 2008
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Are you gonna vote?

I hope you are.

We don't need to know who you're voting for - just as long as you head to the voting booth and submit your ballot. If you already voted by absentee, terrific!

With election day right around the corner, I sincerely hope that none of you feel like it's a "chore" or not "worth it". Sure it takes time but if you no vote..... NO COMPLAIN! 

One thing that always seems to accompany election year - especially high profile years - are smear tactics. As if issues of the state or nation wasn't enough - there has to be name calling, "lies" and dirt digging on opponents thrown in the mix.

Me personally? I'm all about character.

I'd rather stand side by side with a person I respect and can look dead in the eye without ever thinking if I can trust him or her. For the most part, I think most politicians have lost that genuine touch. Instead, they've developed "skills" to be able to do that - look trusting - without even batting an eye.

Issues are extremely important and if your platform can't back it up, you surly won't get my vote... it doesn't help your cause if you look "crooked" either.    :eek:

The last Mayoral and Presidential debates sure tested those.

Not sure if you noticed it or not but the "underdogs" relied on character attacks to discredit their opponents. They also cut off their opponents as they were speaking, rolled their eyes along with other "childish" acts.

It was like a MMA (mixed martial arts) match without the physicality of it.... although a lot of jabs were being thrown. 

Wassap Wit Dat!

If they act like that in a public forum, how would they act in negotiations that don't go their way?  :shock:

It reminds me of movies like Dave and American President and the way they acted that would make me vote for them in a heartbeat. But the one speech that sticks out in my mind was the one by President Shepard (Michael Douglas) finally responding to the many uncalled for character attacks by his opponent.

If you haven't seen the movie, I'd recommend it. Here's the clip and if you aren't moved by it.... not sure what would....


Here are the words to the speech if you can't see the video.... although Michael Douglas did perform it perfectly. (No, I am not a MD fan)

So wat?  Gonna vote?

 

DA PIDGIN WORD OF DA DAY! -
(as quoted from Da Kine Dictionary & Pidgin To Da Max… wit a Braddah Lance twist)

NO MO' CLASS
(pronounced same as spelled)

Haole Translation: No class at all

Use: Someone wit no aloha, no cares, no respect

Sentence: “People dat ack li'dat, no mo' class.”

Sentence: “No mo' class dat kine! Jus' make you all nutz!”

 

 

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51 Responses to “Advanced Citizenship”

  1. GA Bows:

    WHOA. . . talk about early. It's 8 am my time, which means you were up either LATE or EARLY... WWD?!?

    Anyways, yes I will be voting!
    Have a good week.


  2. anklebiters:

    I already mailed in my write-in vote for Tom Dobbs - "Politicians are a lot like diapers. They should be changed frequently, and for the same reason. " :lol: Maybe this belongs on O&E since they are always talking about BEEBEEDEEs :-)


  3. jaydee:

    Yes, I will vote. My co-worker always complains about the government, economy, the Iraqi war but never votes. I told him the best way to voice your opinion is to vote but he's like "most" people that choose not to vote. He says his one little vote won't make a difference anyway. Arrrghh! Some people just don't get it!


  4. roach:

    BL,
    I've voted in every election since I've been able to for the past 80 gazillion years. Although, this year's election is one that I wish there was a "None of The Above" box to check. I believe that its every American's duty not right to vote.


  5. KAN:

    Right on, BL. I totally agree.

    I mailing my absentee ballot dis morning. I am a naturally bossy person, so anytime I can tell somebody else what to do, I'll do it. I feel bad for, but totally understand, those people who feel so helpless about the current state of our country that they can't be bothered to vote. For some, it really is just laziness. For others, it's a sign of how bad things have gotten. I remember those experiments about learned helplessness from Unit Mastery Psych 101 at UH (remember when you could only get into Unit Mastery classes if you registered late!!! Or are most of you guys too young to remember?) But I agree with Jaydee-if you goin' monku, at least vote.

    I heard a great promotion for an upcoming topic on our local NPR station. "Scary music, bloody attacks. It's the time of year for . . . negative campaign ads!"

    I wish I could fix it so that since I've already voted, I am automatically exempt from having to hear/see/read any more political ads.


  6. islandgirl in nc:

    The hubby and I will be voting this afternoon. I'm looking forward to casting my vote for the first time in several years. Then it's back to packing and moving. :)


  7. King Katonk:

    We Americans take voting for granted. Voting is a privilege in which many people throughout the world die for that right. So for those of you who monku about the way things are remember you have the power to change it. Enough excuses and get your okole out to the polls.

    Speaking of polls, for the past few elections I volunteered to work at the voting precincts; this one will be no exception. Granted, it makes for a very long day but I doing my small part in the democratic process.

    I agree with BL that The American President is a good movie. It would be refreshing if there were politicians who had the passion of President Shepherd. All too often today’s candidates are filled with inane canned responses filtered through teleprompters. Can someone have the courage to stand for their convictions?

    My only negative gripe with the movie is that the director, Rob Reiner, injected too much of his political ideology (ACLU, gun control, global warming) through Douglas’ character. In the state of California, Reiner has a storied reputation of imposing his progressive beliefs on the people while his own actions are deemed questionable. In my opinion he should just stick to directing movies.

    I’m still waiting for Spinal Tap II.


  8. Ynaku:

    Hey BL, That's what really turns me off when the start slinging mud. To me that NO MO' CLASS Like in your last blog, sometime best to be quiet and let people see by your action. Action speaks louder than words to me. And like you mentioned. No Complain!


  9. M:

    Good morning BL, I already sent in my absentee ballot. Let's vote everybody! It's your right! Use it!


  10. bamboohouse808:

    I have to admit that for the first couple years after I graduated high school, I didn't vote. Not because I was too lazy to go or had lost hope in the system, but because I heard that's how they pick your name for jury duty. I know, dumb reason. But, once I graduated from college and got into the "real world", I realized how important it was to vote and have been voting ever since. I always go the absentee ballot route. Gives me a chance to take my time and do more research on candidates if I need to.

    BL - Don't you wish we could vote for our bosses too!!


  11. B:

    yes, we will exercise our right to vote. have done so for a while now. I like to monku dats why i vote. lately our local politicians giving plenny of excuses and dats no moa class too. "passing da buck" seems to be da norm. example is da UH and cooke field mess. legislature give ukumillions to da school and no can spend little bit time to see how da money spent and da conditions of da place. if I going spend uku money I like see fo myself wats up.
    "mud slinging" is tired already too. k-den betta stop monku-ing, its only monday. have a good week everybodies.


  12. NKHEA:

    Me and da wife will be voting.

    Gatta go work fo now :( will Bee back latta :)

    btw BL let me know about the SUPing ;)


  13. hemajang:

    I old and been voting every year since eligible, except when I was in the army for 2 years...can't remember why I didn't, maybe didn't have election during that period. Yeah, it puzzles me why people don't vote. I guess they have that stoopid ainokea attitude, lazy and/or figure their vote no make difference any way.

    The main problem is figuring out who to vote for. You get plenty information on the major races and not hard to make choice. It's da local state representatives, city council and BOE races that more difficult to figah out and at times choices are not appealing. The candidates in my district for state senate, you had a disgraced incumbent who had a highly publicized DUI, a very young student and a old-time community activist. The incumbent we know but the other two had very little information on their platform on issues. The incumbent never did not have a very convincing look of trust and character if you go by appearance and demeanor only but I thought he did a very good job of representing our district...but his DUI was his ultimate downfall.

    Knowing trust or integrity is tenuous at best. Hard to tell sometimes by just looking at them eyeball to eyeball and talking to them. I dunno, my wife has this unreal sense of people when she talks to them...eerie. I always ask her opinion. I've questioned our community legislators and city council person and how they followed through with my requests or answered my questions determines my support for them. But kinda hard to call up da mayor or presidential candidates, I don't think they going return my calls. BTW, Hannemann is like Joe Moore, looks very good on TV and delivers a convincing performance but don't expect him to follow through with your request. He will shake your hand but ask him a question that requires a follow through...forget it. Not to say he isn't a good mayor...I probably going vote for him again...still pondering.


  14. hemajang:

    Korrection - been voting every "election" year since eligible.


  15. Scott:

    (jetlagged and stoked I scored free tickets to the Ohio State LOSS!)....
    yeah, definately voting early next Tuesday, then planting my big butt in front of the t.v. all day to watch the results play out. Politics is ugly, but this kind of smearing has happened since politics began. Palin's clothes, Barack's birth certificate, McCain's temper, AHHH it's too much. I work with some people who never vote and don't have a clue about politics, they're like 50 year old children, that's sad.


  16. Goodbeer:

    If you enjoy your freedoms and way of life, vote. If you don't care, move. Apathy sucks. Ainokea sucks.


  17. visitor:

    I've voted in every election since eligible. This election will be the first for my daughter, who turned 18. Sure makes me feel old.


  18. uncle jimmy:

    BL, yes, will vote.. an' for Barama, uddah-wise ostrich-size by family..

    great pull on the Amer Prez clip..

    try check dis' oddah one weah the Prez says, "the reason that people drink the sand.." an' try check da sound effecks..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UAWGN1Wmxc

    wish dat would happen whenevah i try say somet'ing pro-foun'..

    kutgw, BL..

    uj


  19. Chicken Grease:

    Heh, The Grease already voted. The only question I thought odd was the "rail" question. The slick ads make it seems as if the voter IS electing to have rail or not; but, the actual question seems to have to do more with assigning a firm and whether you approve of steel-on-steel. Ahhh, I'll just say I DID vote "yes" (and I DRIVE to work and I love driving to work).

    I'm usually a sucker for U.S. President movies (Harrison Ford's "Air Force One" THE best U.S. President film, heh), but, the "American President" was just . . . well . . . weird. What's that one scene where the prez' and the Martin Sheen character are contemplating the bombing of that intelligence building they located? And they couldn't decide on whether hitting it during normal hours when actual intelligence personnel are there or at night when janitorial personnel are there? C'mon, the former are the ones doing it to us and not the guys and gals pushing brooms. That scene was just odd to me.


  20. Braddah Lance:

    GA Bows:
    WHOA. . . talk about early. It’s 8 am my time, which means you were up either LATE or EARLY… WWD?!?

    Yes, VERY late & early! *yawwwwn* Things I do for WWD! readers. :lol:
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    anklebiters:
    “Politicians are a lot like diapers. They should be changed frequently"

    Nice quote! Almost sounds like da NFL. :razz:
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    jaydee:
    He says his one little vote won’t make a difference anyway. Arrrghh! Some people just don’t get it!

    Yup, jus' look at da primary's. If there were a few hundred mo' people voting fo' Mufi, there wouldn't have been a runoff...... it would have made a difference. :???:
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    roach:
    I believe that its every American’s duty not right to vote.

    Rogah Dat! But wat about those who don't take da time to know da candidates or issues? You wouldn't want their vote.... right? But yes, everyone should vote.... at least once!
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    KAN:
    I mailing my absentee ballot dis morning...I wish I could fix it so that since I’ve already voted, I am automatically exempt from having to hear/see/read any more political ads.

    Unfortunatly during this next week you'll be seeing a ton more. :sad:
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    islandgirl in nc:
    The hubby and I will be voting this afternoon. I’m looking forward to casting my vote for the first time in several years.

    It will definetly be a historic one.... at least in the Presidential race.
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    King Katonk:
    Speaking of polls, for the past few elections I volunteered to work at the voting precincts; this one will be no exception.

    Kudos to you showing actions speak louder 'den words! Right on Braddah!

    I agree with BL that The American President is a good movie. It would be refreshing if there were politicians who had the passion of President Shepherd. All too often today’s candidates are filled with inane canned responses filtered through teleprompters. Can someone have the courage to stand for their convictions?

    I'm glad someone seen dat movie! :wink: And I didn't know about Rob Reiner's injected his "ideology" into da movie... I thought it was jus' part of da "show".
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    Ynaku:
    Hey BL, That’s what really turns me off when the start slinging mud.

    Yeah, especially once "name calling" comes in... so childish I tell ya!
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    M:
    Good morning BL, I already sent in my absentee ballot. Let’s vote everybody! It’s your right! Use it!

    Right on!
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    bamboohouse808:
    BL - Don’t you wish we could vote for our bosses too!!

    No comment...... they might be reading 'dis. :shock: :lol:
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    B:
    lately our local politicians giving plenny of excuses and dats no moa class too. “passing da buck” seems to be da norm.

    You know, I gotta give props to Mufi though. The past Mayors seemed to have followed dat practice and during Mufi's terms all da $h!t hit da fan. :shock: While there maybe differing opinions on dat, it jus' seems dat way to me and he's been taking some heat on it.
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    NKHEA:
    Me and da wife will be voting.

    Cool! And fo' surah I going let you know about SUP! Gotta try something different during da winter lull on da south side no? :grin:
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    hemajang:
    The main problem is figuring out who to vote for. You get plenty information on the major races and not hard to make choice. It’s da local state representatives, city council and BOE races that more difficult to figah out and at times choices are not appealing.

    So so true!
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    Scott:
    Politics is ugly, but this kind of smearing has happened since politics began. Palin’s clothes, Barack’s birth certificate, McCain’s temper, AHHH it’s too much.

    I wondah how come gotta be li'dat?
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    Goodbeer:
    If you enjoy your freedoms and way of life, vote. If you don’t care, move. Apathy sucks. Ainokea sucks.

    :grin:
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    visitor:
    I’ve voted in every election since eligible. This election will be the first for my daughter, who turned 18. Sure makes me feel old.

    It shouldn't. See how your actions of voting have influenced your daughter to vote? You should be proud. :grin:


  21. BananaFysh:

    Yup, I vote. I'm in the "No vote, no grumble" school of thought.

    bamboohouse mentioned voting for our bosses - since I work in government, I kinda can vote for my boss!

    In some ways, I can kinda understand why some peeps no vote. You read the paper everyday, and you read about the dumb stuff these egomaniacs do, and you lose faith. I get futless sometimes too, but still, all the more reason to vote! Get those dummies out of office!


  22. Coconut Willy:

    Hopfully goin vote this week, if my ballot comes in the mail. Voted at Honolulu Hale for the Primary. It's a right and a privilege. I hope the elected officials remember it's a privilege to serve the PEOPLE.


  23. tita leerz:

    Yes, we should all vote. Not all of us was made for the military or to fight any war...so the very least we could do is exercise our civic duty and drive our okoles 2 miles to the voting booth to vote. If your okole is too lazy to drive out, get an absentee ballot! There really is no excuse for not voting cause access is easy. Even if you're on the fence, make the effort and some time to do your homework. It's easier to fill in a puka with black ink than it is to get deployed. The best way you can thank the troops is to do your part and vote!


  24. Ocean Lover:

    I probably vote TONIGHT as I have my absentee ballot. Da wife voted last night and I thought about voting but some National Geographic show about Australia's DEADLIEST CRITTERS won out.

    I have an observation.....we're seeing all kinds of political commercials as "its the season"....yet for some (Board of Education) there's this candidate Janis Akuna. She's got commercials and print ads all over...........YET.....WHAT'S HER QUALIFICATIONS???????????

    Jimmy Borges has a commercial endorsing her "If you want CHANGE.....vote Janis Akuna" or words to that effect. Yet I have NO IDEA what makes HER QUALIFIED to be on the Board of Education. Last night there was a commercial for Carol Mon Lee ? and the commercial said she's an attorney and a couple of other things that I forgot. I did remember she's an attorney and that the commercial did list her qualifications.

    You know where my vote is "leaning" towards..........

    Sorry for taking up space.

    OL


  25. 9th Island Girl:

    Yes, I will vote. I don't do absentee because I actually enjoy going to the site and going through the whole process. I still get a thrill. I take my daughter there, too, so she can be involved and know how important it is.


  26. Pu'ka:

    In da main event, I gonna vote fo' da Punaho guy! Keep it local in da white house fo' a change. Plus, I wen Punaho in grade tree and foah and climb da big banyan in da playground back inna day (77'). Trading Star Wars cards, playing electronic han-held Mattel football and catchin' anoles by da chapel.

    Mebbe da innaguration dinnah be plate lunch mahi mahi and two scoop.


  27. Braddah Lance:

    uncle jimmy:
    try check dis’ oddah one weah the Prez says, “the reason that people drink the sand..” an’ try check da sound effecks..

    Yeah, dat was one good one too!
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    Chicken Grease:
    The slick ads make it seems as if the voter IS electing to have rail or not; but, the actual question seems to have to do more with assigning a firm and whether you approve of steel-on-steel.

    Exactomondo! It appears da Kobayashi camp is banking on da voters siding with her jus' to say no to steel on steel.

    I’m usually a sucker for U.S. President movies

    Rogah dat!

    ...that one scene where the prez’ and the Martin Sheen character are contemplating the bombing of that intelligence building they located? And they couldn’t decide on whether hitting it during normal hours when actual intelligence personnel are there or at night when janitorial personnel are there? C’mon, the former are the ones doing it to us and not the guys and gals pushing brooms. That scene was just odd to me.

    I believe President Shepard was more concerned about the number of lives that would be lost and showed his compassion. But I never thought about it in the more "practical" perspective. Why bomb da "working class" instead of da "brains of da operations"? Hmmmm... nice point.
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    BananaFysh:
    You read the paper everyday, and you read about the dumb stuff these egomaniacs do, and you lose faith. I get futless sometimes too, but still, all the more reason to vote! Get those dummies out of office!

    I think dat's it - lose faith. Once lost... hard fo' get back.
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    Coconut Willy:
    It’s a right and a privilege. I hope the elected officials remember it’s a privilege to serve the PEOPLE.

    I wondah if elected officials fo'get their motto to serve da people? I wondah if they consider it a "job" instead of being a public servant? Hmmmm......
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    tita leerz:
    There really is no excuse for not voting cause access is easy. Even if you’re on the fence, make the effort and some time to do your homework.

    Rogah dat! Make an effort! Make mo' effort to find cheap gas 'den to vote no?
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    Ocean Lover:
    I have an observation…..we’re seeing all kinds of political commercials as “its the season”….yet for some (Board of Education) there’s this candidate Janis Akuna. She’s got commercials and print ads all over………..YET…..WHAT’S HER QUALIFICATIONS???????????

    I have an observations right back....... wat if those running fo' watevah office have no qualifications? Wat if they only have "ideas"? Damn good ones too? Would you consider that person? Hmmmm......
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    9th Island Girl:
    Yes, I will vote. I don’t do absentee because I actually enjoy going to the site and going through the whole process. I still get a thrill. I take my daughter there, too, so she can be involved and know how important it is.

    Start 'em young!


  28. anklebiters:

    BL:

    You should watch the movie 'The Man of the Year' with Robin Williams...a comedian/jester wins the presidential election due to a voting software bug.


  29. Rodney:

    Vote? Of course I vote. Every morning I drop my ballots. The worse is the hanging chads. But my voting booth get fan and air freshener so it's all good - as long as no one votes immediately after me.

    But next week Tuesday, I'll vote - da real kine - before coming in to work.

    But I still cannot figure how a blank vote counts as a No vote. WWD?!? And overvotes - count as a No vote too. WWWWD (dat's 3 Wassups!).

    Anyways, one word of advice. After voting, Flush. Tanks, ah!


  30. Ocean Lover:

    BL, I'm not sure you understand my point. "I have an observations right back……. wat if those running fo’ watevah office have no qualifications? Wat if they only have “ideas”? Damn good ones too? Would you consider that person?" - BL

    If you TELL ME what kind of IDEAS you have.....I'd CONSIDER. If you only tell me "I got IDEAS" and I don't know your qualifications or WHAT YOUR IDEAS are.................

    MY POINT IS..........these candidates should TELL US WHY we should vote for them and not just say "BECAUSE"..........they're basically "selling themselves" and asking us for OUR VOTE. Tell me WHY I should give YOU my vote.

    OL


  31. Braddah Lance:

    Pu'ka:
    Mebbe da innaguration dinnah be plate lunch mahi mahi and two scoop

    Ho, dat be one trip! Can see all da mainland peeps say da samething, "But it's 'dinner'?!" :lol:
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    anklebiters:
    You should watch the movie ‘The Man of the Year’ with Robin Williams…a comedian/jester wins the presidential election due to a voting software bug.

    Never saw dat.... Netflix anyone? :grin:
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    Rodney:
    But I still cannot figure how a blank vote counts as a No vote. WWD?!? And overvotes - count as a No vote too. WWWWD (dat’s 3 Wassups!).

    Yeah, I don't understand dat either. If you no fill da puka, why should it be no? It should be "nothing". Dunno.

    Anyways, one word of advice. After voting, Flush. Tanks, ah!

    Wrong blog.... you must have came from O&E. :lol:
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    Ocean Lover:
    If you TELL ME what kind of IDEAS you have…..I’d CONSIDER. If you only tell me “I got IDEAS” and I don’t know your qualifications or WHAT YOUR IDEAS are……

    OL, I got you da first time. Jus' tryin' to throw out anoddah "what if". :grin: But it's true, some jus' say da "everyday political words" don't they?
    "I'll lower taxes, improve education, help da small business'" etc..... but HOW you going do dat is wat mattahs yeah? :wink: We on da same "wave". :smile:


  32. Ynaku:

    Bruddah Lance, I was going say the same thing to Uncle Rodney. He no can talk about D0D0 ova hea. But I know how hard it is to make a distinction as to where we are blogging. I catch myself a lot and have to go back and edit.

    Remember MLC is for us mature individuals no matter what age you are.

    WWD is for us sofistimacated people dat enjoy the occasional (ok regular) Pidgin.

    O&E is, well for everything else that is ODD.

    Just to let you all know, I love all of them. Us da OHANA. No ack, try look at your family, get all kine people li'dat yeah? Das what makes life fun. It's All In Da Ohana.


  33. Ocean Lover:

    BL.....very good. ;-) Even though you younger than the MLC's....you have a good head on your shoulders.

    If I was running for office, I'd list my qualifications then say "Here's what I'm going to do and HOW I'M GOING TO DO IT" and list them down...sort of an "action plan" if you will.

    Maybe these politicians don't want to tell us HOW THEY GONNA MAKE CHANGE so that their opponents don't "steal" their plan? Yeah.............RIGHT.

    OL


  34. hemajang:

    If you know the candidate's ideas on issues and have they laid out a plan on how to implement those ideas, then that may be good enough reason or "qualification" to vote for him/her without da extensive credentials like previous elected office, community activist experience, college degrees, etc. However, you want someone that has the experience as a proven leader.


  35. Kelli:

    Very good, Braddah Lance! I already voted absentee. I kinda feel like I should have made up my mind to go down to the polls, but I didn't want to fuss with the crowd and I like to be able to research about the candidates/issues. It would have been cool to actually go there in person, though, because this is my first time voting for president and it's such a historical election. You know, da kine I would tell da grandkids about... OMG! Did I just say grandkids? Uh, better just try to get through this semester before I talk about that, but you know what I meant. Aigoo!


  36. opso:

    "American President"?
    ho BL.....you like dem chick flix eh? bwahahaha!! nah nah.....j/k
    but still..... ;)

    yep.....i going vote sometime this week. you gots to! dats one way you can make a difference.

    and i agree with Largo about the blank votes and overvotes.
    so this basically means you have THREE ways for a NO vote.....and only ONE way for a YES vote? WWD!! :? :? :?


  37. anklebiters:

    BL:

    It's on one of the movie channels....


  38. NEO:

    Yes!!! Braddah Lance watches The American President!!! WOOHOO!!! I gotta admit, Annette Benning for an older lady has quite a grace about her... I also liked the "drinking the sand" part too... But yeah BL, the "I AM THE PRESIDENT" speech was right on! I voted... and after was pau I told my dad "we gotta paint our fingertips black..." ya know like the Iraqi and Afghan elections... "leave the indelible imprint of democracy..."

    Aloha and AFOOFA gang!
    NEO


  39. acuradriver02:

    I'll be voting...filled in 90% of my absentee ballot, but still considering the pros/cons of some major issues/candidates.

    The state and/or city/county should publish voter guides, detailing the ramifications of each vote - if you vote yes, this happens, if you vote no, this happens (at least for initiatives and/or amendments). Same for actual candidates. That way everyone voting can make an informed decision.

    When I first started voting in CA, used to get those voter guides to help me decide. Maybe they have here (the only one I've found so far is the link provided by the Advertiser). Sure could use some additional information on those amendments about the minimum mayoral age, the one involving the prosecuting attorney, and the one about the civil fines, etc.


  40. munch:

    i vote. but i hate politics. and i'm not a fan of politicians either...i really hate the name-calling, mud slinging, and digging up anything and everything to make the opponent(s) look as bad as possible. besides, no matter what they say now, there's no telling how many of those "promises" they can actually fulfill :roll: i know no one person can fix all the problems & issues from communities to the island to the state to the entire country so i guess when it comes down to is you just have to pick the "lesser of two evils" if you will. i noticed that they also seem to like to point fingers and say that, "the incumbent caused all these problems..." blah blah blah and they're gonna fix it but don't vote for the other guy because he/she supported it...blah blah blah! ehh the past is history, the future is a mystery! we jus gotta hope & pray that whoever "wins" will care more about the people's best interest rather than making themselves look good ya know? :???:

    anyway, dis is getting tooo long so i pau now :-D


  41. uncle jimmy:

    neo

    good pull.. you don' pos' offen (enuf), but when you do, you always get some guud stuffs for offah up..

    dat indelible imprint of democracy is one powah-ful image, brah..
    hoo, chicken skin..

    geev 'em da gas fo' democracy....

    uj


  42. 808Dad:

    Hey Lance,
    I hope things are going good for you and your Ohana. I know I’m opening a can of worms with this question but what would happen if the government gave everyone who voted a tax break? I realize laws will have to be changed but instead of around 35% of citizens voting in our State would it increase dramatically. Would this be good for the Country and State? Yes, my wife and I get a kick out of exercising our privilege to voice our opinion.

    808Dad


  43. Braddah Lance:

    Ynaku:
    ....Das what makes life fun. It’s All In Da Ohana.

    Rogah dat!
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    Ocean Lover:
    Maybe these politicians don’t want to tell us HOW THEY GONNA MAKE CHANGE so that their opponents don’t “steal” their plan?

    I even wondah if they get da ideas/plans on their own? I would think it's harder fo' da "little officials" to come up with a plan because they don't have the "personnel" to brainstorm and such. I'm sure Sen.Obama and McCain have their staff coming up with tons. No fair eh? :neutral:
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    hemajang:
    If you know the candidate’s ideas on issues and have they laid out a plan on how to implement those ideas, then that may be good enough reason or “qualification” to vote for him/her without da extensive credentials like previous elected office, community activist experience, college degrees, etc. However, you want someone that has the experience as a proven leader.

    Kinda like a catch 22 no? Like you need a job to gain experience but you need experience to get a job. :???:
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    Kelli:
    It would have been cool to actually go there in person, though, because this is my first time voting for president and it’s such a historical election. You know, da kine I would tell da grandkids about…

    Yeah but by then, your grandkids could probably just text in their vote. :shock:
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    opso:
    “American President”?
    ho BL…..you like dem chick flix eh? bwahahaha!!

    Why you like tease eh? :lol:

    and i agree with Largo about the blank votes and overvotes.
    so this basically means you have THREE ways for a NO vote…..and only ONE way for a YES vote? WWD!!

    Nevah even think about it dat way! I jus' thought it was silly to count it as no but nevah dat it's already 3 to 1 in favor of NO. :shock:
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    anklebiters:
    It’s on one of the movie channels….

    Then dat means I can't play my PS3. :grin:
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    NEO:
    I voted… and after was pau I told my dad “we gotta paint our fingertips black…” ya know like the Iraqi and Afghan elections… “leave the indelible imprint of democracy…”

    Nevah heard of dat - you mean they actually paint their fingertips? Is dat to show they voted or to show they can't vote again?
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    acuradriver02:
    The state and/or city/county should publish voter guides, detailing the ramifications of each vote - if you vote yes, this happens, if you vote no, this happens (at least for initiatives and/or amendments). Same for actual candidates. That way everyone voting can make an informed decision....(the only one I’ve found so far is the link provided by the Advertiser).

    Excellent idea! I'm sure if even there's a crash course right before you go to the poll booth it would help in making a better decision and not finding out later you should have voted da oddah way.
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    munch:
    ...there’s no telling how many of those “promises” they can actually fulfill i know no one person can fix all the problems & issues from communities to the island to the state to the entire country

    True dat... but I'd still like to see any politician step up to da podium and say they've accomplished their goals and list the ones they couldn't accomplish. Now dat would say a lot about their character.
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    uncle jimmy:
    neo
    good pull.. you don’ pos’ offen (enuf), but when you do, you always get some guud stuffs for offah up..

    Yeah.... so dat means you gotta post mo' often! :wink:
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    808Dad:
    I know I’m opening a can of worms with this question but what would happen if the government gave everyone who voted a tax break?

    Yeah, it would be a neat idea - I'm sure da voter count would increase exponentially - but seems kinda like bribing no? And then it'll become an incentive, not a duty or right to vote.
    Sad, but people shouldn't have to need an incentive to vote oddah then it's their duty and da fact that their vote not only affects them directly and consequently indirectly, but society in general.

    808Dad


  44. Jason:

    Of course, I will be voting on November 4. I like to actually go in and vote; then again, my precinct is never busy.

    And The American President, I gotta get that on DVD someday. I'm not the biggest fan of his politics, but the writer of the script, Aaron Sorkin (Sports Night, The West Wing, Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, Charlie Wilson's War), is one of the best in the business.


  45. NEO:

    BL-

    It was like a signature... You know, lots of people cannot write their own names, so they make a fingerprint... and the thing is that once they put the print on the ballot, the people knew that those folks had voted. There's a story I read about a woman in Iraq who stayed in line at the polling place even though there was a carbomb that exploded less than 100 feet away. It blew debris all over her and the folks in line, but they didn't leave the line because they knew that if they failed to vote it would have given the insurgency a victory, and would have put up even more of a roadblock (no pun intended) to the spectre of democracy in Iraq. the indelible mark of democracy, almost like a scarlet letter, but in a good way, and in a way that promotes freedom throughout the world!

    (off the soapbox)

    NEO(goin' out w/ the boyz tonight)


  46. NEO:

    acuradriver02-the state and counties DO publish those things... they usually come in the mail and most folks throw em away!


  47. snow:

    geez, i was trying to remember the issue that was brought up to the supreme court, which resulted in their decision that a blank vote counted as a "no" vote. normally, the blank votes don't decide the "election" but for that particular issue, they did. oh well, my mind is blank right now...

    anyway, yes, i'll definitely be voting. i remember being so disappointed that my 18th birthday fell a few weeks after an election day, which meant that i had to wait until i was 20 to cast my first ballot! i've voted ever since and i will continue to vote as long as i can! i like going to down to the polls on election day - in the past, i voted absentee a couple of times, it's convenient but it's just not the same!

    i vote for a candidate based on their character, as well as their qualifications. character is huge, actually... why would you vote for someone that you didn't feel you could trust? afterall, our elected officials make decisions every day that affect all of our lives. it is hard to tell how qualified candidates are, though... even if you check some of their websites, there's little to no information. politics is kind of like sales; you've got to sell yourself to the public if you're running for office. the negative campaigning (which i hate!) is a marketing ploy... but, i think, that politicians say negative things when they don't have anything better to say themselves. if you make the other person look bad, maybe no one will notice that you've really go nothing to say!


  48. snow:

    oh, i forgot to say... be careful with voter guides! for the most part, they are normally correct but, i have seen a few in the past with erroneous explanations of ballot issues and voting outcomes.


  49. Braddah Lance:

    Jason:
    And The American President, I gotta get that on DVD someday. I’m not the biggest fan of his politics, but the writer of the script, Aaron Sorkin (Sports Night, The West Wing, Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, Charlie Wilson’s War), is one of the best in the business.

    WOW! There's quite a few of you dat take ALL dat into consideration? I nevah even in my wildest dreams even think of dat - so does dat mean you don't watch certain shows/movies dat a certain director/actor/producer etc does?
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    NEO:
    There’s a story I read about a woman in Iraq who stayed in line at the polling place even though there was a carbomb that exploded less than 100 feet away. It blew debris all over her and the folks in line, but they didn’t leave the line because they knew that if they failed to vote it would have given the insurgency a victory, and would have put up even more of a roadblock (no pun intended) to the spectre of democracy in Iraq. the indelible mark of democracy, almost like a scarlet letter, but in a good way, and in a way that promotes freedom throughout the world!

    Mahalos fo' sharing dat! It should be a reminder dat voting is not something US Citizens should not take lightly.
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    snow:
    ...politics is kind of like sales; you’ve got to sell yourself to the public if you’re running for office. the negative campaigning (which i hate!) is a marketing ploy… but, i think, that politicians say negative things when they don’t have anything better to say themselves. if you make the other person look bad, maybe no one will notice that you’ve really go nothing to say!

    Good points! No wondah sales people get bad raps too yeah? :grin:


  50. HNL2LAS:

    I've voted since I turned 18. I just recently had to change my residency back to Hawaii so I could VOTE(!!) back here at home, since I'm here at home for a long while more. My area has incumbents but have to vote for mayor!!

    I've been involved in politics here by helping to campaign! Haha... wave or honk at the sign wavers!!!! We feel so good when you do..... Voting is such a big deal for me..... I'm of the same school a lot of the above said... if you no vote, no complain...... When I was younger, most of my friends weren't voters. Now as I'm older almost all of my friends are voters! YAY!!! Otherwise.... no tell ME NUTTIN!!!

    I hate da smear campaigns too.... if you have LEGIT gripes then okay... but if you LYING????? to make you look good, I get mad.... I vote for who I think will be honest and the better candidate.... so obviously you smearing, I ain't gonna vote for you.


  51. JindoMaster808:

    I just cast my vote today. Take advantage of absentee voting - mail in or walk in. It's fast and you won't have to stand in long lines or worry about making it to the polling place on election day. It took me about 20 minutes at Honolulu Hale. The folks do a great job of keeping things moving.

    Like Chicken Grease, my vote for movie President is Harrison Ford in "Air Force One." He was one kick-butt Prez!