Make It Easier... We Will Pay

June 23rd, 2009
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Waikiki parking. Yeah right.  

Words kama'aina - and tourist alike - have found to be oxymoron-ish

Adding "affordable" Waikiki parking turns out to be a really big misnomer.

The City Council has decided to raise the parking rates for the metered parking stalls at the Honolulu Zoo and those fronting Kapiolani Park in proposed Bill 25.

According to Honolulu Advertiser's staff writer John Windrow's article, "one version would raise the parking fee at the Honolulu Zoo lot from 25 cents an hour to $1 an hour and raise the hourly rate at meters along Kalakaua Avenue fronting the park from 25 cents to 75 cents. The other version would raise the hourly fee at the zoo and along Kalakaua to 75 cents. An earlier plan that called for raising the hourly fee in both areas to $1.50 has been scaled back."

For those who don't do math well, the first version is a 300% increase and the other version? A whopping 500% increase!!   8O

Wassap Wit Dat!

Well nothing much if you don't park in Waikiki but obviously the parking increase itself, percentage wise, is outrageous! You might as well call it Bill 300 instead.   :roll: 

Personally, I don't park in Waikiki unless I'm in da mood to get ripped off with $20 parking from hotels which btw, how come no mo' kama'aina rates? Only now da hotels hurting so all their ad's they running now say "discounted parking"? WWD!...... 'nuff about dat one, dat's anoddah mo'olelo.   :wink:   

Back on topic, I wondah if the City Council have thought about HOW it would work fully?

You know my mind, always brewing, and I was already thinking of a couple of things about it.

Numbah 1 - I think was kinda a no-brainer with da increased rates was:  Are they going to replace every single meter? Think about it. With a 300% increase... don't you figgah dat da meter needs to be 300% biggah to hold all da extra coins? Only once in my lifetime have I encountered a meter dat was full, I can only imagine how quickly the current meters would get full with da new higher rates.

Numbah 2 - I can understand and, believe it or not, partially agree with da increased rates. It hasn't been raised since forevah but 300% is a bit exhorbant - but no one is thinking in percentages. I couldn't see why the increase wasn't from 25¢ to 50¢ per hour (still a 100% increase)? It would have been a very fair increase considering and much more able to handle for da time being. I'm surah even most of da regular park users could live with dat.

Da biggest gripe I get is if you like more money for parking, Fine. But how come you no can make it easier for me to pay it then!

Who da heck is going to carry $4 in quarters? We all know dat if you pay in nickels or dimes you "lose minutes" compared to a quarter and how many times have we had to dig around for loose change? Unless you specifically know you're going to park in a metered stall, your coin count in your ashtray isn't going to cut it (mine's doesn't right now at da current 25¢ rate) and we all know how business' just looove to give change to "non-customers".

And who da heck wants to keep looking at their watch, stop wat they doing and run back to keep feeding da meter so you no get one ticket?

But I guess das da overall master plan yeah? No mo coins, tell yourself you going come back, forget, and see da big yellow flapping paper under your windshield wiper saying "Congratulations! You just lost $35! No pay in two weeks and get a bonus fine added!"

If we're expected to pay more, why not make it easier for us to pay? I've seen meter's dat accept credit cards on da mainland and I'm surah someone has invented by now a meter dat accepts dollah bills. How about a coin change machine like an ATM so nobody can break into it? How about even paying by a cell?

We may not know wat or how da heck da City or State systems work, but bottom line is if they want more of our hard earned kala, you bettah be more akamai about how we can pay it.

I just wondering if going get kama'aina rates on da meter.  :roll:

 

 

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35 Responses to “Make It Easier... We Will Pay”

  1. Ocean Lover:

    Morning BL.....so what's today's topic? ;-)

    All I's knows is I's FIRST!

    OL


  2. Ocean Lover:

    I've always wondered:

    If the parking meter takes my quarter and DOESN'T CREDIT THE TIME.......WWD?

    If the parking meter's coin slot is PLUGGED............is it now FREE PARKING or will I get a parking ticket?

    OL


  3. Scott:

    Good point about the size of the meters, BL. A forward thinking leader would propose to put in machines that take cards, like the mainland, but I doubt that will happen.
    I can't believe parking at the Shell is free! They should have installed meters there at the current rate to make more $$. Either way, people who really don't want to pay will have to go earlier and get free parking at the Shell, or just park on the mauka side of the park and hoof it.


  4. roach:

    BL,

    To me, its just another reason to stay out of Waikiki. I'd rather get free parking in the Vegas Strip hotels than spend any time or money in the tourist trap called Waikiki !


  5. Rosette:

    here ..stay home ..why do you worry if people carry a bag full of change....how about park somewhere cheaper take your scooter or better yet take a bus then walk to the park...or save $50.00 so in five years you can actually go to the zoo pay the parking relax.!


  6. Rosette:

    I think the zoo worker will empty the meter everynight and they can give out change too.


  7. Rosette:

    Maybe the zoo will give out tickets to stick infront of the car window so no need to bring coins !


  8. Rosette:

    park somewhere bring your bike.


  9. Rosette:

    BUT WHAT I WOUDL DO IS YELL AT MY HUSBAND TO BRING HIS BIKE THEN DROP ME INFRONT OF THE PARK..HE CAN PARK I DON'T GIVE A CRAP if he park miles away.omg funny


  10. Rosette:

    so I make sure the husband have cash before he takes me to the park I will make him park somewhere with his bike..picture him with his piggy bank full of coins cycling..omg funny


  11. M:

    Good morning BL! :)

    Everything you said makes sense.

    If the meter is full of coins and won't take anymore, will the parking be free?


  12. Kage:

    Good Morning all.

    Hopefully now when I do go to Waikiki, I can find meter parking...

    $1.00 per hour is still kinda, sorta, maybe reasonable. It needed to go up from the 25 cents, that was just too cheap.


  13. B:

    yep, could never understand how the Shell parking is free. usually try to keep quarters in the vehicle for parking now gotta keep a roll quarters.
    maybe should have put parking meters up in the schools- with all the parking monies collected wouldn't have to furlough workers.


  14. KAN:

    The last time Sweetie and I parked in Waikiki, I was totally sticker-shocked. We'd gone to hear some music at the HHV and were there for about 2 1/2 hours. I think I paid $40. Talk about lose money. If the CC is trying to increase kama`aina interest in spending money in Waikiki, they're going about it the wrong way.


  15. 9th Island Girl:

    Hmm...maybe this will be like the Kaimuki muni parking, where they converted from meter to attendant.


  16. anklebiters:

    BL:

    How about when they start putting credit card readers on the meters itself in Hawaii :!: But then, they will text you when the meter is about to expire so it can automatically charge you the extra time when you reply. Hey, how'd you like a refund on your card if you didn't use the allotted time that you purchased...that is possible too.


  17. Braddah Lance:

    Ocean Lover:
    I've always wondered:
    If the parking meter takes my quarter and DOESN'T CREDIT THE TIME.......WWD?

    If the parking meter's coin slot is PLUGGED............is it now FREE PARKING or will I get a parking ticket?

    Hmmm.....
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    Scott:
    I can't believe parking at the Shell is free! They should have installed meters there at the current rate to make more $$. Either way, people who really don't want to pay will have to go earlier and get free parking at the Shell, or just park on the mauka side of the park and hoof it.

    Yeah, das one thing I'm amazed about but it could possibly be because da park is under a Trust but I'm only speculating.
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    roach:
    To me, its just another reason to stay out of Waikiki.

    Aw, c'mon. Waikiki isn't dat bad if you can stand da crowds.... da malihini.... da parking prices.... da air of sunblock.... people crossing da street illegally.... but it does have character and a great places to sit to watch da sunset or take a moonlit stroll on da beach. :wink:
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    Rosette:
    ....how about park somewhere cheaper take your scooter or better yet take a bus then walk to the park

    So how do you recommend carrying all da picnic gear on da scooter? :lol:
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    M:
    If the meter is full of coins and won't take anymore, will the parking be free?

    Hmmm........
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    Kage:
    Hopefully now when I do go to Waikiki, I can find meter parking...
    $1.00 per hour is still kinda, sorta, maybe reasonable. It needed to go up from the 25 cents, that was just too cheap.

    It's one of da last things dat truly is "cheap". Next thing we know it's no longer 99cent value meals but $1.99 value meals. :shock:
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    B:
    usually try to keep quarters in the vehicle for parking now gotta keep a roll quarters.

    It's no longer "loose change"? :roll:

    maybe should have put parking meters up in the schools- with all the parking monies collected wouldn't have to furlough workers.

    But would have to furlough university students. :razz: They barely can afford books let alone parking. :roll:
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    KAN:
    The last time Sweetie and I parked in Waikiki, I was totally sticker-shocked. We'd gone to hear some music at the HHV and were there for about 2 1/2 hours. I think I paid $40. Talk about lose money.

    OUCH! I hope you got a car wash out of dat! And wax!
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    9th Island Girl:
    Hmm...maybe this will be like the Kaimuki muni parking, where they converted from meter to attendant.

    Then dat would mean they would have to hire someone and dat would totally ruin da profit margin. :roll:
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    anklebiters:
    How about when they start putting credit card readers on the meters itself in Hawaii But then, they will text you when the meter is about to expire so it can automatically charge you the extra time when you reply. Hey, how'd you like a refund on your card if you didn't use the allotted time that you purchased...that is possible too.

    Wow! Now dat is one excellent idea!


  18. 2B:

    Maybe they going look to one system like the mainland get. Every side of the block get one paybox and you can even pay by Credit Card. Nevah look real good at um since we nevah had car, but I've seen parking systems that shot out a paper you had to put on your dash and it had the time you had to leave by on it.

    I guess its either that, or they gotta go around collecting coins 3 times a day which is still probably cheaper than buying a system they have to maintain and prevent vandalizm.


  19. Matt:

    up here in the bay area we just starting to see machines that take bills, coins and even credit cards. each machine controlls four or five meters/spots. much easier than having an ukupile of quarters in your pockets.


  20. Rodney:

    In Vegas, it costs nothing to park at a hotel - even just to visit the property.

    In Waikiki, they charge you to park - even when you're attending an event at their property.

    And people wonder what's the draw of Hawaii folks to Vegas.
    FREE PARKING


  21. snow:

    i think the parking rate increase is long overdue. however, it probably would have been better if they had raised the rates when our economy was better and we weren't already hurting! on other other hand, if they had raised the rates before, the money would have been already been budgeted for something and they'd have to raise the rates for something else! no can win! they do have to figure out how to collect the extra money so the public is able to pay the new rate without hassles.

    rodney - the cost of parking has been a consideration in some of my trip planning in the past, though, not necessarily vegas versus hawaii.


  22. Braddah Lance:

    2B:
    ....I've seen parking systems that shot out a paper you had to put on your dash and it had the time you had to leave by on it.

    I remembah parking inside USC campus and they had da same thing. A big ole box, you put your money in and a paper comes out telling you wat time to get out. :grin:
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    Matt:
    up here in the bay area we just starting to see machines that take bills, coins and even credit cards. each machine controlls four or five meters/spots. much easier than having an ukupile of quarters in your pockets.

    Are da machines "big"?
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    Rodney:
    And people wonder what's the draw of Hawaii folks to Vegas.
    FREE PARKING

    I thought was da showgirls and being able to drink in public? :mrgreen:
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    snow:
    i think the parking rate increase is long overdue. however, it probably would have been better if they had raised the rates when our economy was better and we weren't already hurting! on other other hand, if they had raised the rates before, the money would have been already been budgeted for something and they'd have to raise the rates for something else! no can win!

    Exactomondo!

    rodney - the cost of parking has been a consideration in some of my trip planning in the past, though, not necessarily vegas versus hawaii.

    Das one excellent point you brought up! Wenevah we travel, we look at parking cost too cause some of them outrageous! Imagine have a car parked at $20 a day for a week.... das one more night you could have stayed in da hotel!

    Actually, parking was da NUMBAH 1 reason why Da Wife and I nevah rented a car in San Fran... it would have costed more than da entire rental! WWD!


  23. sparkyhasselhoff:

    I still think a dollar an hour is still pretty reasonable. The bigger issue is the lack of stall throughout Waikiki. They just need more stalls at $1/hour so that if you're going shopping at the International Marketplace you don't have to spend 15 minutes walking there first. Let the surfers and beach goers use the zoo and let the shoppers and the like park more in the middle.


  24. anklebiters:

    BL:

    When I was in San Diego a couple of years ago at the Marriott down by the bay, they charged $28/day for an uncovered lot next to the hotel. If you stay at a hotel in San Fran, it'll cost you $40/day :!:


  25. Rosette:

    @ BL So how do you recommend carrying all da picnic gear on da scooter?

    YES you eat first...bring mint gum chew that ! I make my husband do the work...why would I worry a dollar parking for..he can bring his piggy bank full of change..I relax..why stress yourself over paying the parking..if you eat home first then you got money for parking...just bring water bottle then go out for lunch somewhere..I HINT to my husband..are you hungry ..do you want ribs?.then he opens his wallet no problem supper time.

    If a guy is too cheap with parking for a dollar and he has money for beer hit him on the head with scooter handle!


  26. Rosette:

    OKAY SELL THE DARN SCOOTER YOU WILL HAVE MONEY FOR PARKING!


  27. Rosette:

    HOW ABOUT LEARN TO JUGGLE PUT A HAT DOWN MAYBE YOU GET FEW CHANGE then buy your snack instead of bringing it!


  28. Rosette:

    OKAY I GOT IT!! IF YOU ARE TOO CHEAP A DOLLAR FOR PARKING YOU STAY HOME OPEN YOUR BALNKET IN THE LIVING ROOM PUT YOUR CHANNEL IN THE ANIMAL PLANET VOILA NO STRESS..EAT YOUR FOOD !


  29. Rosette:

    @ BL

    Then dat would mean they would have to hire someone and dat would totally ruin da profit margin.

    YES THE PROFIT WILL EMPLOY A HUNGRY PERSON THEN HE PAYS TAX AGAIN SO EVERYBODY WINS.


  30. snow:

    BL - i remember some hotels having parking rates of $40 a day! can't remember if that was in san francisco or D.C., though. crazy!


  31. mypassionbucketisfull:

    Funny you mention this because the C&C raised all sorts of taxes/fees to offset the weakened economy (and to prevent them from furloughing/downsizing C&C workers). I just went to 7-11 and saw that bus passes are $50/month for adults now. Single rides will cost $2.25. Property taxes went up. The vehicle weight tax went up. But yeah, the $1/hour at the zoo (I also heard the meter maids watch the meters like hawks for that lot), it's not too bad. Considering how much it costs to park at other places in Waikiki. I remember when I worked in Waikiki, there used to be a $3 flat rate pay box lot by Lewers. C&C changed that fast. Now, I think the cheapest flat rate lot in Waikiki is the early bird at the old Imax structure ($6/day). I wouldn't be surprised if they install meters along the Ala Wai in the near future.

    I know for UH, they did away with the $3 flat rate parking during business hours. Now, they have a machine (it accepts dollar bills and I believe credit/debit cards) for parking. That's pretty crazy.


  32. Melissa:

    Hi Lance!! Thank you thank you thank you for stopping by my blog!

    I recently went to a bar/restaurant in a hotel in Waikiki for an event. I came early and was one of the last to leave. Although I validated, my parking was $24! and my friend's parking was $32! AND we got stuck with a huge restaurant bill (but that's another story). Apparently the validation is only good for a couple hours at $4, then you get dinged for every 1/2 hour after that.

    So I'm dumbstruck and telling the parking guy, "That's crazy. No discount?! You know, I'm never coming back. That's a bad way to treat kamaaina in this economy." He just smiled and shrugged. I kept telling him, "I'm never coming back!"

    When I got home, I told the restaurant manager what happened, and even he said, "It's out of our control because the hotel controls the parking. We're just a restaurant."

    Now, THAT was a "WWD" moment. D-oh! I'm never going back.


  33. Braddah Lance:

    sparkyhasselhoff:
    I still think a dollar an hour is still pretty reasonable. The bigger issue is the lack of stall throughout Waikiki. They just need more stalls at $1/hour so that if you're going shopping at the International Marketplace you don't have to spend 15 minutes walking there first. Let the surfers and beach goers use the zoo and let the shoppers and the like park more in the middle.

    E Komo Mai sparkyhasselhoff to WWD!

    Excellent points! Yeah Waikiki needs more stall parking but no mo' space already. I know wat you're talking about if you wanna go shop or cruise Waik's and just need "parking" in da middle. There are some stalls but no way enough to handle demand. And yeah, lose money eh if you gotta spend 15 mins each way walking to/from da car. :roll:
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    anklebiters:
    If you stay at a hotel in San Fran, it'll cost you $40/day

    I know! I think at dat time we were there we could have stayed two more nights for da price they were charging. :shock:
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    snow:
    BL - i remember some hotels having parking rates of $40 a day! can't remember if that was in san francisco or D.C., though. crazy!

    Probably both eh? Kinda densely packed cities.
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    mypassionbucketisfull:
    Funny you mention this because the C&C raised all sorts of taxes/fees to offset the weakened economy (and to prevent them from furloughing/downsizing C&C workers)....I wouldn't be surprised if they install meters along the Ala Wai in the near future.

    E Komo Mai back!

    Yeah tell me about it. It's outta sight, outta mind untill you gotta pay your car/truck registration or get your property tax bill in da mail. Da public didn't get nickeled and dimed..... we got Franklin'd and Benjamin'd! :shock:

    And I wondah if they can install meters on da Ala Wai being it a residential area? I'm just speculating but maybe there's some kine of law saying gotta have so much parking because of da apartments and das why get free street parking?

    I know for UH, they did away with the $3 flat rate parking during business hours. Now, they have a machine (it accepts dollar bills and I believe credit/debit cards) for parking. That's pretty crazy.

    Heh? Fo' realz? Just goes to show how long I nevah been back there.
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    Melissa:
    Hi Lance!! Thank you thank you thank you for stopping by my blog!

    Hey! I stay choke busy so I no can "frequent" our blog ohana as much but I stay tryin'. I just had a few minutes of down time yesterday.... and whaddaya know.... I spent it on your blog. :grin:

    I recently went to a bar/restaurant in a hotel in Waikiki for an event.....I kept telling him, "I'm never coming back!"

    Wat hotel is dat? Spill da beans!


  34. tita leerz:

    when I was small, i used think the coins would just go into the meter then down the pole and into the ground where there was some kind of vaccuum that took everything to downtown to be counted.

    wait...

    wid bus, i used to think the coins went down all da way into da tank and melted into gas fo da bus...cuz i neva saw da bus stop fo gas. den i took a trip to the mainland where their buses took dollar bills. and i thought..well, wouldn't the dollar bill just burn faster than the coins?


  35. tita leerz:

    you know it's sad when it costs more to park at the zoo than it does to pay for the entrance fee to the zoo.